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When do you think they fell in love?

Post by Cassiopeia on Fri 19 Nov 2010, 22:48

So we all know that Mulder and Scully were not madly in love with each other in the "Pilot" episode, so when do you think that each of them fell in love (romantic interest kind of love)?

I think Mulder came to the realization that he had fallen in love with Scully when she was dying from cancer around the end of season 4. I think being faced with the reality of losing her opened his eyes and made him take a good hard look at his true feelings for her, and what he found wasn't a platonic love, but something more. I believe that Mulder fell in love first.

Scully, by nature, is emotionally withheld when it comes to relationships with men. I think, by nature, she keeps herself unavailable for relationships on purpose out of fear of being hurt or abandoned. For this reason I think she was the last of the two to realize that her adoration and admiration for her partner had turned into love. Unlike Mulder, I do not believe that she realized she was in love with him when she fought cancer and beat it. And Mulder understood this so it was he that waited patiently for her to grow emotionally in order to come to terms with her feelings for him. He didn't push her too quickly into a relationship, he allowed her to take the reigns and be the one to make that step from just friends to something more. I can't think of a specific moment when Scully could have realized her feelings for Mulder, but I think it probably happened in season 6. Dare I say perhaps in "The Unnatural", when Mulder pushed the limits of their physical interaction when he invited her out to hit baseballs. I think that moment was the first where Scully may have really looked at what was going on, and her feelings for Mulder (even though you sense that she's reluctant to be with him in the way that the end up while hitting baseballs). Since she's so reserved with her feelings it's really difficult to find THE moment where she realized her romantic interest in Mulder.
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Post by Cassiopeia on Tue 03 May 2011, 00:37

Of course then there's this bit that came out of Scully's mouth before "The Unnatural"...

"Well, it seems to me that the best relationships-- the ones that last-- are frequently the ones that are rooted in friendship. You know, one day you look at the person and you see something more than you did the night before. Like a switch has been flicked somewhere. And the person who was just a friend is... suddenly the only person you can ever imagine yourself with." - Scully (The Rain King)

I guess maybe she had considered Mulder before their flirty little baseball hitting scene...
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Post by gorgclaud on Sun 08 May 2011, 10:41

Yeah he would be the only person she can imagine herself with cause she didnt know any other men at this point! taunt

I think she was thinking this cause of FTF kiss. This made her feel this way.

The flick of the switch couldnt have done that much to her though, cause she didnt act on it for quite a while. "suddenly the only person you can imagine yourself with" - not so SUDDEN! BLAH!


In all seriousness though, i think when she saw Mulder with Fowley in The End - and went to her car and sat there for a while. I think that was love for Scully.

I think Mulder fell in love with her when she got abducted in season 2. Particulary One Breath.

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Post by Cassiopeia on Mon 09 May 2011, 11:32

LOL Totally agree!

It's funny, that scene in "The End" when she sees Mulder with Diana, is the one singular moment where I started to detest the MSR because it felt so OOC for Scully to be so bummed out about it. I actually hate "The End" for that scene alone. It's also where my liking of Scully began to deteriorate. Yeah, I still like her and all, but I don't like what Mulder does to her, and what her feelings for Mulder to do her. Boo.

I agree with your assessment on when Mulder fell in love with her (One Breath). But was that just strong love for his friend, or was it love as in how a man can love a woman, as a lover? I feel in "One Breath" it's the love of a friend.
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Post by gorgclaud on Mon 09 May 2011, 14:30

Yeah i think love of a friend too - but that kind of love is where it leads to real love i think.

As for Scully in The End. I thought it was refreshing to see her get more sensitive about stuff. I think she felt threatened by Diana and her connection to Mulder and I think when Gibson Praise started to talk of Diana and Mulder's thoughts, it scared and upset Scully, it created natural jealousy and to be honest one of the things that annoys me about the MSR is how no one was there to threaten it enough. None of them had any sort of long relationship with anyone. It makes you act more on a relationship if you have competition.

I think the whole thing with Gibson reading everyone minds and inner thoughts on all 3 of them explains her heightened sensitivity - its bit like Kobold to Doggett in Daemonicus...makes Doggett all sensitive and weak cause someone has seen inside him and is saying it all out loud. Same as Gibson did to Scully. It makes them act out of character but its a realistic reaction i think.
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Post by Cassiopeia on Wed 11 May 2011, 10:02

Haha! So funny! crackup I never even connected the Gibson/Kobold thing! LOL

I still think that it didn't fit the series when they had Scully react like that, simply because romantic feelings and jealousy are NOT what the XF is about. If TXF were about romance and love stories, then I think that moment would have been appropriate to the show, but since that isn't the show...

At least the scene in "The End" wasn't as forced as other MSR "moments" forced and written OOC in the seasons that followed season 5 and FTF, after FTF the MSR moments just were never the same again, and therefore I jumped 'ship.
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Post by gorgclaud on Wed 11 May 2011, 11:00

Well I do think it all came a bit out of no where for her to react so sensitively. But its like in season 1's Fire, where she is clearly jealous in that one. I think its only natural for her character to be this way, even if that aint the main gist of the show.
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Post by Cassiopeia on Wed 11 May 2011, 11:08

LOL True! Maybe Scully's jealousy stems from being challenged by another female law enforcement officer, struggling to get by in a "man's world" just as she is. Kind of makes her reaction to say Doggett being partnered with Harrison and Reyes nice, there's no petty writing like female bitch jealousy (perhaps she knew that Reyes posed no romantic "threat" to Doggett, same with Harrison - she's observant enough to know that neither of those two women would even have a chance at Doggett's heart) LOL

IMO Scully's jealousy, especially towards Diana, is very bitchy. I hate Scully when she gets like that. Blech! She was better with Phoebe, less bitchy, more humored by it, haha!

Perhaps there should be a separate thread about Scully and Jealousy... not sure where to put it though... in the Scully folder or in the general Relationships folder...
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Post by gorgclaud on Wed 11 May 2011, 11:43

I think Scully was very bitchy to Pheobe! She just gave her dirty looks and said good bye in a certain tone or just waved at her sarcastically!
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Re: When do you think they fell in love?

Post by Cassiopeia on Wed 11 May 2011, 11:49

True...
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